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Incredible military skills



Having a weapon pointed at this dude, is in no way reassuring. Just have a look at what he can do :| Simply amazing!

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Lol

I liked the last one.

the guy was like


WTF MY EYE BITCH.
posted by Lol at Saturday, August-16-2008 00:42am

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Pretty incredible! Can you get that guy to come to my town, and teach me how to do that?
posted by bilijoe at Saturday, August-16-2008 00:46am

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Not bad for somone standing way too close and explosing himself while yielding a weapon on someone . I would rather see him try to remove a weapon from someone that doesn't leave themselves exposed.. The Tact comes in close quarters only.. Theese techniques Will Not save you from an individual who has been trained in tactile exposure yielding a firearm.
posted by street.warrior at Saturday, August-16-2008 01:33am

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"These techniques Will Not save you from an individual who has been trained in tactile exposure yielding a firearm"

Like any situation there are always the what if's, these mearly demonstrate some posibilities for the given senario.

Of course they wont work in every senario but they give you some options for the ones displayed..
posted by Bob Billy at Saturday, August-16-2008 01:43am

Worthless.

Beside the fact already mentioned that a firearm is a ranged weapon and that these skills are useless beyond 4 feet, is the fact that this is seriously staged and closer to a dance routine then Mr instructor would likely admit.

Need I even mention the exploitation of a stereotype in the choice of sparring partner? I think I should given that most military and law enforcement types seem to carry themselves as if they were from (if they aren't actually) the south.

Some skills are more valuable than others, remember, every body sleeps and mean people suck.
posted by Brandon M. Sergent at Saturday, August-16-2008 03:33am

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bulls***
posted by Guest at Saturday, August-16-2008 03:35am

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That guy was taking some abuse. I hope he was paid well for that.
posted by Ed smith at Saturday, August-16-2008 05:57am

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Don't point a weapon at anything you do not intend to shoot. With what I know, if it's up on his temple. He'd be dead.
posted by lone_mortal at Saturday, August-16-2008 22:17pm

Mr.

This tactics are taught to Federal and Local law enforcement when if and they become a hostage or wind up in a in dire situation. They do work. Its a last alternative
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posted by Guest at Tuesday, August-19-2008 09:17am

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These are just some techniques that MAY work in CERTAIN situations. Why are we so passionate about how awesome or horrible they are? And what's with the "Worthless" comment Brandon M. Sergent left?

You have a solid point, Brandon, but it's overshadowed by your apparent bigotry. You may be right, (from your perspective,) but when you start labeling things in your argument like that on a diverse stage like this, smart ears turn deaf and stupid ears perk up.
posted by Z at Sunday, August-24-2008 22:47pm

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These are just some techniques that MAY work in CERTAIN situations. Why are we so passionate about how awesome or horrible they are? And what's with the "Worthless" comment Brandon M. Sergent left?

You have a solid point, Brandon, but it's overshadowed by your apparent bigotry. You may be right, (from your perspective,) but when you start labeling things in your argument like that on a diverse stage like this, smart ears turn deaf and stupid ears perk up.
posted by Z at Sunday, August-24-2008 22:47pm

Not worthless

It really baffles me that people are commenting with crap like "These techniques Will Not save you from an individual who has been trained in tactile exposure yielding a firearm"! You know what? If you're a simple civilian and you have a trained sniper on you or what have you, yeah, guess what, you're dead. But that's not what this is! This is for street-typical situations where someone is perhaps trying to rob you or what not where the person probably does not intend to use that gun but may. It's for the situations where the person HASN'T been trained in anything in particular or if they have, they've momentarily seemingly forgotten it all. Either way, it is NOT uncommon for people to be robbed/mugged at gun point. It is much less common for people to be robbed/mugged by a sniper or someone with an m16 standing a tactically sound distance away.

As for his choice in partner, I think it was a good choice. It plays on stereotypes which is bad (the stereotype) but the idea that that stereotype, itself, represents, the unstoppable force towering above you with the ability to kill you on a moments notice, is perfect for how small the instructor is. When I was in judo and we did demonstrations, I, a fairly tall, athletically built male, would get partnered with Cami, the small, weak looking girl. Why? Because then during the demonstration all of my techniques would be effortless take downs to show that I don't need strength to do any of this. Her's were all over-exaggerated brutal throws and whatnot to show that little ol' her can takedown big ol' me without breaking a sweat and to grab attention in doing so. It's the same concept here. You play on stereotypes to make examples, doesn't mean you feed into that. The partner in this video was probably a well respected member of whatever dojo they work at and probably OFFERED to help in this video.

With that said, I think these techniques are great. In judo I was taught some from the beginning of this video but the midde to the end were all new to me and I look forward to trying them. Thank you for posting this video.

~Serenity
posted by Serenity at Thursday, September-04-2008 20:59pm

Not worthless

It really baffles me that people are commenting with crap like "These techniques Will Not save you from an individual who has been trained in tactile exposure yielding a firearm"! You know what? If you're a simple civilian and you have a trained sniper on you or what have you, yeah, guess what, you're dead. But that's not what this is! This is for street-typical situations where someone is perhaps trying to rob you or what not where the person probably does not intend to use that gun but may. It's for the situations where the person HASN'T been trained in anything in particular or if they have, they've momentarily seemingly forgotten it all. Either way, it is NOT uncommon for people to be robbed/mugged at gun point. It is much less common for people to be robbed/mugged by a sniper or someone with an m16 standing a tactically sound distance away.

As for his choice in partner, I think it was a good choice. It plays on stereotypes which is bad (the stereotype) but the idea that that stereotype, itself, represents, the unstoppable force towering above you with the ability to kill you on a moments notice, is perfect for how small the instructor is. When I was in judo and we did demonstrations, I, a fairly tall, athletically built male, would get partnered with Cami, the small, weak looking girl. Why? Because then during the demonstration all of my techniques would be effortless take downs to show that I don't need strength to do any of this. Her's were all over-exaggerated brutal throws and whatnot to show that little ol' her can takedown big ol' me without breaking a sweat and to grab attention in doing so. It's the same concept here. You play on stereotypes to make examples, doesn't mean you feed into that. The partner in this video was probably a well respected member of whatever dojo they work at and probably OFFERED to help in this video.

With that said, I think these techniques are great. In judo I was taught some from the beginning of this video but the midde to the end were all new to me and I look forward to trying them. Thank you for posting this video.

~Serenity
posted by Serenity at Thursday, September-04-2008 21:00pm

the bad thing

See the bad thing about showing this is that when you train like that your more likely to get killed for real. Of course if he puts a moron in front of you with no desire to kill you of course you might take the gun away but i dont recommend it for real. If they do wanna simulate that for real then at least get a paintball gun and see if he can take the gun away before he gets shot in the head wont kill him but it will hurt like hell thus sticking those worthless piece of crap moves in his own ass. In real life a real criminal WOULD NOT WAIT FOR YOU TO DO SOMETHING, and if by a miracle you got a hold of his hand HE WOULD NOT JUST LET YOU DO WHATEVER YOU WANT WITH HIM he would definitely fight back. Reserve this crap for the movies.
posted by whois at Tuesday, September-23-2008 18:38pm

the bad thing

I suggest that if you get mugged at gun point the best thing to do is to give them what they want no material thing should be worth your life. The only time I or anybody should try this is if you were a prisoner of war and they put a gun to your head and you knew 100% that they were going to kill you then i would try s*** like this, although you will still be killed 100% at least i would go down fighting but again is not going to save your life.
posted by ... at Tuesday, September-23-2008 18:45pm

sensei

Fact anyone whose intent is to kill you will kill you sooner or later .
I will assume these are preludes to abduction scenarios or "see I have gun bitch do as I say"

99% of victims don't come back from abductions so if you are likely to die anyway go for it otherwise do as he says give him your money etc.
Another bad scene is someone totally spaced out on drugs these guys will shoot without to much concious thought so it's another situstion to take action .
posted by koryukempo at Thursday, September-25-2008 16:11pm

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simply stand 2 steps away at all times and this dude can't do s***
posted by simple at Sunday, September-28-2008 08:40am

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What a load of crap. Anyone actually Intending to KILL someone if they flinched would have dropped that guy dead. Demos like that sell plenty of karate lessons but it actually proves NOTHING other than giving people the ability to further endanger their own life in an already near fatal situation.
posted by Guest at Tuesday, September-30-2008 12:07pm

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As someone who has for years practiced and taught small joint manipulation and close range handgun defense, I can say with absolute certainty that the majority of this video would not work in a real life situation.
posted by A Nonny Moose at Saturday, October-04-2008 09:47am

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Assuming that the person wielding (not "yielding") the weapon is a moron and is therefore within arm's reach... well, if someone's pointing a gun at your face with their finger on the trigger and 75% of the trigger-pull force applied, you're just going to get yourself shot if you even touch the gun. Looks to me like this is just an adaptation of blade disarmament techniques.

What happened to getting yourself out of the line of fire and targetting your attacker's vulnerable points? Buckle from the knees and smack him in the nuts on the way down, that's my (completely untrained, non-professional) advice.
posted by hehmonster at Saturday, October-04-2008 14:17pm

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Assuming that the person wielding (not "yielding") the weapon is a moron and is therefore within arm's reach... well, if someone's pointing a gun at your face with their finger on the trigger and 75% of the trigger-pull force applied, you're just going to get yourself shot if you even touch the gun. Looks to me like this is just an adaptation of blade disarmament techniques.

What happened to getting yourself out of the line of fire and targetting your attacker's vulnerable points? Buckle from the knees and smack him in the nuts on the way down, that's my (completely untrained, non-professional) advice.
posted by hehmonster at Saturday, October-04-2008 14:18pm

Getting Shot Fast

"What happened to getting yourself out of the line of fire and targetting your attacker's vulnerable points? Buckle from the knees and smack him in the nuts on the way down, that's my (completely untrained, non-professional) advice." -- hehmonster

This would get you shot. You cannot move as fast as a gun can be reaimed, especially at such close range. The best way to deal with a gun is to get control of the barrel. Controlling the barrel is controlling the gun. This is especially true with handguns, where you can actually stop the handgun from firing, if you have the barrel (you might smash, or even break a finger, but it's better than you or people around you getting shot).
posted by A Nonny Moose at Saturday, October-04-2008 20:03pm

Blah blah blah

I've read a few of the comments - I've studied a fair amount of close quarters combat, even some of the teachings the legend himself Fairbairn has passed down. Then about 20 years of hand to hand martial art - As another poster said, it's more or less guaranteed that unless you have had extensive training and posess excellent dexterity, at that range you wouldn't have time to think of these techniques unless day after day they are drilled into you. Trying something like this, regardless of the situation without that sort of training and intimate knowledge of the small movements you can barely see demonstrated in the video. You would un-doubtably end up with a new hole. On the plus side, cool video. Perhaps a little pretentious but still interesting to watch and see another 'style' in action.
posted by Contempt at Friday, December-12-2008 19:06pm

NOT POSSIBLE

In reality, in ALL of these cases with the guns, the guy with teh gun would have time to shoot the ninja-awsome dude. It looks cool, but the INSTANT you move your hands, you're shot - think about how far you're hands have ot go to move the gun at all, and thinka bout how little the finger on teh trigger does. Graned, it takes a tiny fraction of a second to process that you're moving, but not quite lone enough.

also, if somebody wants to point a gun at you, they're NOT GOINT TO STAND RIGHT f***ING BEHIND YOU.

even the MOVIES got this one right- either you'll have a gun to the back of your head (read my first remark), or at LEAST a foot of space.

i guess it looked kind of pretty
posted by DAVID FINKELSTEIN at Tuesday, December-16-2008 22:27pm

surprising

what surprised me tbh was everyones "oh my god" reaction. nothing he is doing is overly amazing, and 99% of the time its going to get you killed.

want some good advice from a martial artist with very extensive training and alot of close combat experience? If your being mugged: Just hand it all over. otherwise, wait for the best opening possible and take your risks. theres a good chance youll get shot, just hope its not a fatal one and you can get enough damage in on him so it doesnt happen a second time.

But in general, only a moron tries to take a gun away when its pointed at him unless all other options are exhausted,
posted by bigherm at Monday, December-22-2008 06:32am

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Should you get into the unlikely situation to be involved in an armed robbery, the only right thing to do is to give in to the demands of the offender(s). Your life is more important than any goods. Weapons always mean absolute danger to your life!

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posted by Remo Williams at Saturday, January-03-2009 03:46am

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These are alright the thing i don't like is the fact that even after he grabs the gun its still pointing at him. He needs to move out of the way and grab the gun at nthe same time.
posted by Sh3dz0r at Saturday, January-10-2009 19:55pm

....really?

Is it just me, or does it seem like at least half of the people posting comments are some level of expert in various martial arts, with extensive knowledge of close-quarters tactical combat? I don't even know why it matters, considering this is not a martial arts training presentation. It's a freakin internet video. How many people found this video by way of StumbleUpon? It's for entertainment, so perhaps we don't need to tear down the video and its makers based on OPINIONS that claim 'it could never work in real life.' I recall seeing a shot where the shorter fella kicked the gunman in the nuts. Nut shots are always funny, so let's just watch that part again, have a chuckle, and move along.
posted by The Question at Monday, January-26-2009 11:27am

Style

That looks like Krav Maga or a modernized Wing Tsun or maybe a combination of any other martial arts like Aikido,Wing Tsun and so on...
posted by Caladrion at Wednesday, January-28-2009 15:26pm

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i couldn't understand why the supporting actor is african.
go nigga! kickim in da ass...
posted by just passing by at Friday, April-17-2009 08:05am

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love this vid - demonstrating someone using a weapon in a way that never never happens except in teenage fantasies and the world of bad cinema. Are you sure this vid isn't from a "Hollywood stunt persons guide to weapons" seminar.
posted by Milander at Saturday, October-10-2009 19:26pm

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posted by Roderick at Saturday, October-10-2009 23:16pm

Cool story bro

The thing about martial arts is that it doesn't matter whether the displayed situation is realistic or not.A good martial artist uses the knowledge at their disposal to make an opening or exploit a weakness.If you get robbed from 10ft away,give up your money and save your skin.If the retard comes in close and you have the know how,steal his gun and break his face.

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